A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

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HaRo75
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Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Post by HaRo75 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:45 am

Considering the construction of the A10M, if an additional Hotend is installed it will most likely need a tuning mechanism to calibrate it up and down.
The A10M has only one motor on the Z axis and the other side ist relying on the wheels alone to keep it up, so there could happen some misalignment that may need some tewaking and compensating, so that in the end both hotends have exactly the same height.

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Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Post by fritzproject » Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:41 pm

HaRo75 wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:45 am
Considering the construction of the A10M, if an additional Hotend is installed it will most likely need a tuning mechanism to calibrate it up and down.
The A10M has only one motor on the Z axis and the other side ist relying on the wheels alone to keep it up, so there could happen some misalignment that may need some tewaking and compensating, so that in the end both hotends have exactly the same height.

With your experience is a good solution take ender 3 or cr10 dual z upgrade with single stepper or is better upgrade with second z stepper? But add a stepper is a little bit harder Bc we Have to replace control unit for control 6 steppers... right? Or we have another way to control 6 or plus steppers?

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Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Post by Bassrvr » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:09 am

Hi all,
I know is an old thread but I just bump it looking for some other stuff.

Anyway, to everyone who asked if it was possible to do it, I make it happen.

So I originally bought an A10 (Single color/Single nozzle) due the nature of my studies I needed to create some more intricate parts and easy removable support was needed.

Therefore, I bought the necessary parts to make it happen.
♦ Chimera Hot end (coincidentally I bought the same they put in the initial of the post)
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(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3284430 ... 4c4dct0DCN)

♦ Second Extruder board.
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(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3296542 ... 4c4dkrdIn4)

♦ Second Extruder connection cable.
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(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3297449 ... 4c4dct0DCN)

♦ Two Titan Extruder Sets “Clones".
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(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3294572 ... 4c4dct0DCN)

♦Nema 17 Stepper motor.
I locally bought it so no link anyway any stepper above 1.2 amps I think could work.

♦Second filament detector.
Image
(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3296191 ... 4c4dct0DCN)

♦ Extra Stepper Driver (I actually changes all of them to TCM 2208 due the headache the machine give me "to noisy for me")
(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3284540 ... 4c4dct0DCN)

So pretty much is straightforward connection and replacement of the parts.
Since the A10M shares the same heater cartridge for the both "Nozzles" for the A10M user I think you will need to buy two Extruder connection cables instead of only one, this is just a guessing (I don’t have a A10M to actually look the connections).
You will need to print a bracket to hold the second extruder board and to give enough clearance for the fan of the Chimera extruder, Also an adapter piece to secure the Chimera hot end to the X Metal carrier. and finally due the style of titan extruders i had to use an spacer in one of the to achive the orinetation I wanted.
Also some extra bolt and nut but that is up to you to get.
The printing area will be reduced to 220mm X 210mm due the use of this spacer/adapter.
You will need to modify the part-cooling duct (As you can see mine is glued with hot melt silicone due my laziness but hey, it works hahahah).

If anyone have more doubt or need the STL files for the adapters/Brackets or the Marlin Files , don’t hesitate to reply i will sent some how.
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Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Post by _kaktus_ » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:55 pm

:mrgreen:

Professionally prepared presentation.
Bravo.
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Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Post by konrads3 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:20 am

Awesome write up Bassrvr. I just got a A10M and ordered the extra parts to convert to 2 separate nozzles.

Could you please post the files (firmware and STL s) or email to kszwab@gmail.com ?

How do I load the FW files, the arduino IDE like for the old I3B I used to work with ?

Thanks,

Konrad

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Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Post by mractor » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:28 pm

HI There I'm in the process of adding this same hotend, and was wondering if you can share what additional parts and or firmware updates I need to make to do the upgrade...you can email me directly at mractor1@gmail.com

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Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Post by Lefty0194 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:08 am

Hi.
Is there any chance of files so I can adapt my A10m please. qcs70@hotmail.com. thank you for your help.

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Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Post by crusader27529 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:44 am

OK, I'm game...I've about given up on using the A10M second color because of the said clogging issues. I's ure like the same files/data.

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