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Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:09 am
by Bassrvr
Hi all,
I know is an old thread but I just bump it looking for some other stuff.

Anyway, to everyone who asked if it was possible to do it, I make it happen.

So I originally bought an A10 (Single color/Single nozzle) due the nature of my studies I needed to create some more intricate parts and easy removable support was needed.

Therefore, I bought the necessary parts to make it happen.
♦ Chimera Hot end (coincidentally I bought the same they put in the initial of the post)
Image
(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3284430 ... 4c4dct0DCN)

♦ Second Extruder board.
Image
(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3296542 ... 4c4dkrdIn4)

♦ Second Extruder connection cable.
Image
(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3297449 ... 4c4dct0DCN)

♦ Two Titan Extruder Sets “Clones".
Image
(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3294572 ... 4c4dct0DCN)

♦Nema 17 Stepper motor.
I locally bought it so no link anyway any stepper above 1.2 amps I think could work.

♦Second filament detector.
Image
(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3296191 ... 4c4dct0DCN)

♦ Extra Stepper Driver (I actually changes all of them to TCM 2208 due the headache the machine give me "to noisy for me")
(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3284540 ... 4c4dct0DCN)

So pretty much is straightforward connection and replacement of the parts.
Since the A10M shares the same heater cartridge for the both "Nozzles" for the A10M user I think you will need to buy two Extruder connection cables instead of only one, this is just a guessing (I don’t have a A10M to actually look the connections).
You will need to print a bracket to hold the second extruder board and to give enough clearance for the fan of the Chimera extruder, Also an adapter piece to secure the Chimera hot end to the X Metal carrier. and finally due the style of titan extruders i had to use an spacer in one of the to achive the orinetation I wanted.
Also some extra bolt and nut but that is up to you to get.
The printing area will be reduced to 220mm X 210mm due the use of this spacer/adapter.
You will need to modify the part-cooling duct (As you can see mine is glued with hot melt silicone due my laziness but hey, it works hahahah).

If anyone have more doubt or need the STL files for the adapters/Brackets or the Marlin Files , don’t hesitate to reply i will sent some how.
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Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:55 pm
by _kaktus_
:mrgreen:

Professionally prepared presentation.
Bravo.
:D

Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:20 am
by konrads3
Awesome write up Bassrvr. I just got a A10M and ordered the extra parts to convert to 2 separate nozzles.

Could you please post the files (firmware and STL s) or email to kszwab@gmail.com ?

How do I load the FW files, the arduino IDE like for the old I3B I used to work with ?

Thanks,

Konrad

Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:28 pm
by mractor
HI There I'm in the process of adding this same hotend, and was wondering if you can share what additional parts and or firmware updates I need to make to do the upgrade...you can email me directly at mractor1@gmail.com

Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:08 am
by Lefty0194
Hi.
Is there any chance of files so I can adapt my A10m please. qcs70@hotmail.com. thank you for your help.

Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:44 am
by crusader27529
OK, I'm game...I've about given up on using the A10M second color because of the said clogging issues. I's ure like the same files/data.

crusader2752939@gmail.com

Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:49 am
by GBURCH
Good god yes! I am so tired of getting clogged hot ends because if you don't use both sides within a reasonable time frame; the unused one get clogged up. Don't really care about mixing colors since it is not an even mix. Left side of print is more left color and right side is more right color. I would like to see an option from Geeetech offering a 2 to 2 nozzle setup. But guess I am going to have to find my own way.

Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:17 am
by William
GBURCH wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:49 am
Good god yes! I am so tired of getting clogged hot ends because if you don't use both sides within a reasonable time frame; the unused one get clogged up. Don't really care about mixing colors since it is not an even mix. Left side of print is more left color and right side is more right color. I would like to see an option from Geeetech offering a 2 to 2 nozzle setup. But guess I am going to have to find my own way.
:D Hi, If you want to print in monochrome,
It is best to insert consumables at both ends.
Otherwise, it will easily lead to blockage of the hot end.

Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:23 pm
by Wiggee
Bassrvr wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:09 am
If anyone have more doubt or need the STL files for the adapters/Brackets or the Marlin Files , don’t hesitate to reply i will sent some how.
Does anyone have these STL files for the brackets that they would be willing to share?

Re: A10M upgrade to 2 extruder 2 nozzle setup

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:26 am
by el_tiburon
Bassrvr wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:09 am
Hi all,
I know is an old thread but I just bump it looking for some other stuff.

Anyway, to everyone who asked if it was possible to do it, I make it happen.

So I originally bought an A10 (Single color/Single nozzle) due the nature of my studies I needed to create some more intricate parts and easy removable support was needed.

Therefore, I bought the necessary parts to make it happen.
♦ Chimera Hot end (coincidentally I bought the same they put in the initial of the post)
Image
(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3284430 ... 4c4dct0DCN)

♦ Second Extruder board.
Image
(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3296542 ... 4c4dkrdIn4)

♦ Second Extruder connection cable.
Image
(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3297449 ... 4c4dct0DCN)

♦ Two Titan Extruder Sets “Clones".
Image
(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3294572 ... 4c4dct0DCN)

♦Nema 17 Stepper motor.
I locally bought it so no link anyway any stepper above 1.2 amps I think could work.

♦Second filament detector.
Image
(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3296191 ... 4c4dct0DCN)

♦ Extra Stepper Driver (I actually changes all of them to TCM 2208 due the headache the machine give me "to noisy for me")
(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3284540 ... 4c4dct0DCN)

So pretty much is straightforward connection and replacement of the parts.
Since the A10M shares the same heater cartridge for the both "Nozzles" for the A10M user I think you will need to buy two Extruder connection cables instead of only one, this is just a guessing (I don’t have a A10M to actually look the connections).
You will need to print a bracket to hold the second extruder board and to give enough clearance for the fan of the Chimera extruder, Also an adapter piece to secure the Chimera hot end to the X Metal carrier. and finally due the style of titan extruders i had to use an spacer in one of the to achive the orinetation I wanted.
Also some extra bolt and nut but that is up to you to get.
The printing area will be reduced to 220mm X 210mm due the use of this spacer/adapter.
You will need to modify the part-cooling duct (As you can see mine is glued with hot melt silicone due my laziness but hey, it works hahahah).

If anyone have more doubt or need the STL files for the adapters/Brackets or the Marlin Files , don’t hesitate to reply i will sent some how.
IMG_20190803_235526.jpg
IMG_20190803_234908.jpg
IMG_20190803_232556.jpg
IMG_20190803_232542.jpg
Hi, i know its quite an old post but im in need of changing the 2in1 in 2in2 setup, ive ordered the chimera but don´t know which cables or boards to buy? my printer is a20m and already have 2 extruders like titan. Any idea which cable to get? and the board is it just another like the one i already have?